What is a highly evolved planet, in your opinion? What is the most evolved planet like?

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AdminPermalink Reply by Signalled Transition on December 26, 2011 at 6:22pm

Hi Anton,  This is kind of a mind crunching post and I'm happy to see your post here.  This universe vibrates at low density this is why our earth is 3D.  I believe you can have what you have the highly evolved planet as here on earth...our path is not evolve to manifest as you say energy from the void.  The other possibility is the 4th dimension where it becomes a spirit planet which in essence cannot be seen by us.  This could in fact be superimposed upon our earth.  We have many beings here on earth and I am assuming the species would be alien in nature to us coexisting and not earthlings.  The laws of this universe I assume would be guided under different laws on the evolved planet?   Nice post Anton  Thanks for sharing.  ST.

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Permalink Reply by Shumagorath on January 17, 2012 at 12:28pm

Regardless if this world enters a 4th dimension where kindergarden children can draw Tesseracts and doodle Mandelboart sets or play with play dough and make them come alive.... 

My view of an evolved planet, in the 3rd dimension would be one where the majority of the planet like say 99.9% have governments that are democratic and value or have trends that are progressive to try and enable everyone at least a fighting chance regardless of gender, gender prefernce, or disabilities. It' won't be perfect as we'd still be mortal, but at least with rule of law and schools that try to preach and enlighten young minds to their professional intellect with their OWN FREE WILL, to volunteer or not (but at least don't go out of your way to be a D-bag and rip people off). Perhaps in this new world that is VERY achievable, as technolgly enables more people to do more, (exponential growth), more time would be devoted to higher self actualization goals, rather than "He has the most toys wins" or greed, that entices people to be corrupt, that needs protection with the rule of law in the first place. Perhaps, as human society eventually finds a world of technological abundance, and luxuries for comfort is very out of vogue, (in particular as women (nurturers, are empowered especially in the 3rd world, as inventions make life so much more simpler), as techology science and medicen has obliterated disease that has plagues us since Adam and Eve, or biblical ages, STDS like syphillis, or Polio, (which is on the verge of being evicted from our better world). Governments can now focus on pressing matters, and then when those pressing matters are solved, then other pressing matters, each time, saving, TIME, increasing efficency. Such as the war on homelessness (getting people back working in home), so they "buy more time" (health wise, to achieve what they want to do, which benifits the world).

Perhaps in this stage before making the quantum leap to the 4th dimension, we should pass grade 3 first lol. I'd think, that as science and devleopment and research exponentially grows, and we discover better ways to use the mind, perhaps discover the various Glands uses, connect mind, body, AND spirit through Nodtic sciences, and bring these secrets out. or learn to reclaim land lost to indusrialization for kindred sentients. or learn to use 11% of our brains, would go along way, if we can already do so much with our 10% of our brains.

Everyone loves Little Engine that could stories, and Earth is such a story. It would not surprise me if the universe watches us (like on Stardust angelic stars hover over Earth with curiosity, or perhaps we are subjects of some heavenly reality show for God, of curiosity) a Movie perhaps, or like Whale Wars, our home worlds are curious to see the crazy volunteers on this planet. On the age of great change.

 Angels from heaven or not in latter on in 2012, UFOs landing or not, or warp gates or not, Earth is becoming more technologically savy, and despite all the calamity around the world 3/4 of the news goes unreported is very very good, (but in the news "if it bleeds it leads"), no coverage on the say stories of courage of a homeless man who returns to his family on Christmas, or beats the bottle, or even Rufus the Stunt Bum (Rufus Hanna, a Vietnam war Vet, incited to do really humilating things by bratty teenagers, he did these things drunk. (running his head into milk cartons, throwing himself off a hill, fighting with other homeless). He eventually beat the bottle, and works with homeless advocacy to help other drinkers beat the bottle. 

Or the progress we've made so far from women's rights (growth of democracy), to gay rights, animal rights, civil rights, handicapped rights. Where people have the chance to at least try. This works because it trains off spring and they inturn give back to the community by empowering themselves and community. 

the 2010 Shanghai expo was interesting as richer countries presented Machine Ex Deuses, less affluent countries like Canada, Columbia, and other middle powers, offered their answers for "better life, better city", and these involved, bettering the communities they live in for upward mobility of comfort, no grand engineering no grand palaces in the sky. these will come latter unfortunatly, BUT it'll be our generation that builds them. (hey we gots the internets, my dad as a University of ALBERTA student in the 70s used punch cards and CASSETTE TAPES).

The evolved planet won't be for us, it'll be for our children and THEIR children for several generations. But get this, we've entered the age of the mind since the 70's as psychologists study the mind, neural surgery, spinal damage, dreams, and have even created drugs that create dreams (the brain flooded by DMT when we sleep), and even begun preliminary research on these strange glands in the head (3rd eye), petitutary glands, and discovered that a certain diet (badddd cheap ass chemicals), have a retardation and atrophying effect on these glands, (floridation of water). with the outlawing of these chemicals like BPA, and many others, because of the afformentioned "democracy" and advocaty. The brain just gets stronger, more compatable with these changes. And perhaps if the brain muscle is detoxed and healthy again, like rehab. This would be the cataclysm that triggers the landslide changes. Into the higher dimensions. 

This is a goal of Freemasonry, and other religious spritualisms, to prepair man for the responsibility of the inevitable time it will use great wisdom and science, again. And perhaps be smart enough NOT to blow ourselves up for a 4th time! 

But democracy and the rule of law can go a LONG way on this dark world, to enable and awaken minds. And fight back the ignorance. The education system isn't THAT bad. We just expect too much, just live knowing you were there and you helped and this has relieved many a hurting people. Like give blood saves 3 people. Plus a longer life span doesn't hurt either. 

Freemasons live with the fear and the specter of death, time is finite, on Earth and what has she or he done with the hour glass to meditate on Death, to respect this shadow trailing them, to conjure up ideas of how to use what little he or she has left remaining in his life to better and make the mason's life worth it. And if you have helped mitigated  just for one grain nano second of time,and NOT abetted the painful circumstances that Earth finds itself. You have done MORE than the some of the most powerful and rich, who make life miserable  and keep us in some depressive state of mind most counterproductive of our efforts to lift earth to a higher state. 

It's like this, it's harder to climb up hill, stairs put something up on a shelf. you work against gravity, your own weight, and thus you are stronger, heftier, and power lifter, machoer. And it's easy to keep things down, push yourself up on someone's back. No challenge, to your intellect.... cowardly, chickenS, and Wimpy. Bullies are wimps and pussies. 

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AdminPermalink Reply by Brandon on January 17, 2012 at 1:05pm

Nice post and wonderful responses guys!

My sights of an "evolved world" is one where the golden rule is more widely recognized and exercised due to a greater awareness and understanding of  the "Law of One." Universal consciousness would definitely be there as well. All of these things are coming through us into our now, here on 3rd Dimension/4th Density Earth. We are going higher as we speak. Love is in the air. Breathe it in together... Abundance of all kinds to you♥

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Permalink Reply by anton on February 7, 2012 at 5:25pm

Signalled_Transition, Shumagorath, Brandon: thank you for your inspiring answers :)

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Permalink Reply by anton on February 10, 2012 at 2:56pm

My contact left me an unexpected message involving the most evolved planet ever. I don't even know what planet he was talking about. I suppose it was the planet he was on at that time and I am quite sure he was not talking about the Earth.

He was talking about a planet, not about a civilisation in particular (even though I do believe that a highly evolved planet necessarily have one or several highly evolved civilisations). What makes a planet is its civilisation(s) but not only.

Supposing there is a linear evolution scale, I can theoretically imagine there exists a planet which is the most evolved planet in the Universe & beyond. Even though imagining it is beyond human ability, I will try here.

So my contact said it was a planet. What's a planet? Does it orbit a star or not? Tricky questions, hmmm? ^^

Anyway, I'm going with the flow. I imagine I'm in a spaceship, coming near the most evolved planet and what I see with my human eyes is a lighted pale blue - brownish Earth-like planet which looks almost transparent. I guess it appears more and more solid when coming closer and closer. Does it orbit a star - or several? Yes, two - why not? Noy too many suns and moons: I need to see the stars in the nightsky not hidden by moons' suns' light! Unless that planet orbits no star and get lighted by itself.

When I come nearer the surface of the planet, I come through an atmosphere similar to that of Earth. About a half of the planet surface is covered by water. Multicolored continents, a patchwork. And lights everywhere, as though the planet was shining them from inside.

I could telepathically hear the planet: it would speak like a being. It would allow me to land on its surface - or not.

Yes, the most evolved planet is a highly intelligent being that can communicate. Not a "he", nor a "she" but a "it", a "they". I've had a sort of vision of what a communication with a planet would be, a sort of multi-linear conversation. Anyway, I guess I could have more to tell about this, maybe later. I feel it's important to say more about it.

So the planet itself is highly evolved. I also think it necessarily has highly evolved civilisations on it. Well, on the most evolved planet we can expect the most evolved beings, right? ^^

The planet would look like a patchwork, a gigantic zoo made of countless areas which are alike typical areas found of other highly evolved planets. There would be citizens from countless planets/origins. They would choose to be in dense density because it's more challenging for highly evolved people - hence more creative & interesting. Those beings would telepathically communicate, be able to instantly travel through time and space, be able to create matter from the energy of void, ... As highly evolved beings, they would build (in accordance with the planet-being) an "ideal" society (which I can't describe ^^). They would be creators, even universal creators in their dense density shape.

:)

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Permalink Reply by Tudor Pogan on February 12, 2012 at 6:03am

             I have seen you guys sharing your ideas of the "ideal", the "most evolved" planet out there :) and I truly appreciate your opinions, lots of inspirational things you guys have wrote here. But as most of you know there isn't any "out there", it is only inside each and everyone of us.

             So keeping that in mind, there is impossible for a planet, a universe, a "place" to exist without us first conjuring it, yes? So there is no highly evolved planet, ANYWHERE, there are only our ideal vision of our most exciting idea we ever had about who we truly are as a soul. So then, i guess that everyone has it's own evolved planet, which is co created as a reflection of that person's understanding of the mechanics of creation. So in my opinion a very evolved "planet" would be a simple void, filled with constantly shifting ideas of how we each choose to project ourselves in this illusion, kind of like a dimension composed of constant changes :) in which the illusion of the landscape, the position in a "universe" and the shapes and forms of energies would be constantly shifting and forever illuminating. Like a never ending sweet dream, in which one can constantly get lost in forever shifting patterns of change.

             And to complete with more "mundane" details: a place where we can control our weather at our own discretion, where we can shift the landscape as we see fit, a place where everyone follows their greatest excitement, and I mean everyone, from all "corners" of creation, a place in which everyone can come and experience it's most amazing aspect of self and still find more delicious thing to create every single second.

            For me that would be the ideal dream ^^.

                                          My best regards, Tudor :)

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AdminPermalink Reply by Brandon on February 12, 2012 at 3:30pm

Thank you everyone! Tudor your description is awesomely visual and it reminds me of being in the matrix! Hahaha!

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Permalink Reply by anton on February 14, 2012 at 5:39pm

Thank you, Tudor :)

I wish to add a few words regarding your post :)

Firstly, I dont think that "most evolved planet" necessarily means "ideal planet". "Ideal" in whose perspective, anyway? In the perspective of us Earthlings, in the perspective of every being in this universe? Have we got the abilities to imagine what the ideal planet is? I think we haven't - yet we can give it a try :)

Secondly, I think I don't confuse the universe itself with my perception of it.My favorite quote is from one of the fathers of quantum mechanics, Werner Heisenberg (1901 – 1976):

"We have to remember that what we observe is not 'nature' in itself but 'nature exposed to our method of questioning'."

So in my perspective, there is an "out there". The perception I have of it is inside me, on the other hand.

To me, the most evolved planet exists "outside" and could be perceived in many different ways (by Earthlings).

:)

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Permalink Reply by Tudor Pogan on February 15, 2012 at 5:00am

                 Delicious conversations we have here :) thank you for that. But the way i see it, both me and Anton are explaining the same thing, in different words. Yes, the magic of linguistics. It allows you to describe the same thing in different perspectives, yet not as powerfully as you would have with the language of the soul, but with the same consistency. 

                 But isn't it wonderful that we each have our own perspective? As we interact we find different aspects of creation, call it Earthlings, call it Aliens, we find more aspects of ourselves to resonate with, thus recreating ourselves in yet the highest image that we can conceive. So after my interaction with Anton I have found even more about myself and my true nature, and I now have an even greater vision of how things should be. In that light, our interaction is a blessing, as all interactions are, for that matter :)

                 So thank you Anton for being a blessing!

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Permalink Reply by anton on February 15, 2012 at 5:43pm

I thank you as well, dear Tudor :)

You've helped me notice that the most evolved planet is not necessary an "ideal" one. That makes me wonder ^^

Our interaction has also made me focus more on not confusing universe with perception of the universe. For example: colours are brain signals. If I watch into a room only full of intense X-rays, I will just see black. If I watch a red rose then close my eyes, the rose stops being red - it has never been red anyway. My brain says it is red. Anyway, this is funny to wonder what everything looks like without us human observers.

Kind regards to you, Tudor :)

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Permalink Reply by p1n on February 20, 2012 at 11:01am

This is a complex issue and it depends whether you are meaning the planet itself or the civilization which exists on the planet..

As far as civilization is concerned, there is a difference between being highly advanced technologically and highly advanced evolutionarily. Certainly there are types out there who are highly advanced on both of those spectrums but there is also a disconnect at a certain point.. there are those who have increased their technology but over time became in disharmony with their planets. So although their technology may be millions of years more advanced, it is difficult to say that they are "evolved". my opinion is that a properly highly evolved civilization ideally would have an equilibrium between technology and their evolutionary status, but suffice it to say, this particular equilibrium and balanced evolution is quite rare.. often the evolution of the beings has quite a bit of "lag time" behind their tech.

 There are those who have close to mastered the arts of terraforming planets, artificially creating atmospheres as well as the biological life, creating such according to their needs, but i would hardly say that it's balanced. There are those who have mastered genetics and create creatures to then observe. There are those who can manipulate and navigate time. There are those for whom distance is never an issue. Some can harvest material from various types of suns. Some have tech advanced enough that they can build ships that are the size of planets. Some have life-extension tech that nearly eliminates the possibility of death. I could go on and on about capabilities, but again these capabilities, although they imply high intelligence, are technological in nature and don't really reflect the evolutionary status of the beings themselves.. They still can have wars and battles, beef with other peoples, destroy their planets then simply move to another one like its nothing, etc. So is tech really the guage of being highly evolved? definitely not..

 Also with technology, there is a continuous need for resources in order to build and maintain it. This requires trade with other peoples, and thus a system to monitor that trade. Hence, governments and federations exist between these civilizations in order to monitor and maintain trade relations. Thus, governments are in fact needed, but only for the technologically advanced peoples and those in pursuit of those resources.. A type that is highly advanced evolutionarily will not need governments at all, as they don't require the same level of trade as the tech savy. Self-sustained planets and peoples won't have all the super advanced tech because they don't need it.. Thus a line is blurred on how one would define "evolved"

  Then there is the highly evolved evolutionarily. Some can teleport, walk through walls, travel time, speak with highly layered telepathy. Some can even fly and don't need vehicles. Some can equally live on land as in water, able to breath in both environments. Some have evolved past the need for sexual reproduction and simply "create" offspring asexually. Some can see extra wavelengths of light, can see in the dark. Some have even evolved past the need for eyes and simply just "see". Some have even evolved past the need for bodies. And again, I could go on and on about capabilities, but in this spectrum there is no need for tech in the same way as the other. And the tech savy can perform many of these same capabilities via tech and not naturally as others can.. So, the lines are blurred and again I'd say that the ideal highly evolved would have the natural in harmony with the tech..

 Then there is the planets themselves. This is another complex issue. And it is difficult to explain without assuming a sentient consciousness to the planets.. Planets are moreso guaged by a hierarchy of evolution based on a few factors. Size, shape, distance from their sun, material composition, heat and cooling mechanism, magnetic shielding and production, orbit and rotation speed and thus "time ratio".. for instance, technically a "moon" is a planet, but obviously not as "advanced" as the larger one that it orbits thus its place in the hierarchy. When it comes to material and atmospheric compostion there is a hierarchy of the elements they are comprised of. The heat and cooling mechanism or essentially the planet's respiratory system, would be guaged by its ability to self regulate and maintain. The magnetic shielding and production would have to be sufficient to guard against decomposition of the comprised elements by the radiation, pretty hard to evolve a planet if radioactive decay of elements isn't guarded against by a shield for instance. thus a proper equilibrium, and a highly evolved planet would have a near zero radioactive decay of the comprised material. I could go on and on about all the other aspects required, but essentially a highly evolved planet would have the proper equilibrium and harmony to sustain life without death or decay, Then when you include types of life and elements of a higher freq then what we know here on earth, each of the other conditions must follow accordingly.. So, if we are infact increasing our frequency along with the planet to a higher density, then a few things must be considered. There will be heat as the ratio changes and elemental frequency increases, time will change as the orbit and rotation speed must change, the magnetism will increase and electrical discharge and production along with it. radioactive decay will have a noticeable change. and many other factors. i believe this is happening, but suffice it to say the shift to a higher density is not so fluffy as many claim. It is actually quite extreme. For instance, Elements will be burned away that can't handle the higher spin ratio, similar to the refining of metals. while others are fused and higher spin elements are formed.

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Permalink Reply by anton on February 23, 2012 at 5:12pm

I thank you for your instructive post, p1n :)

You wrote: "This is a complex issue and it depends whether you are meaning the planet itself or the civilization which exists on the planet.."

Well, the message I got was: "I want this planet to be the most evolved ever."

It was clearly and literally about a planet (I don't know what planet it was about). What's a planet then?

A question of definition. I quote:

" The International Astronomical Union (IAU) decided in 2006 to change the definition of a planet in order to solve the problems arising with Pluto and Eris, and to use a definition based on physical concepts instead of being purely arbitrary. One now defines a planet as a celestial body that :

• is in orbit around the Sun,
• has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid bodily forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and
• has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit."

(an exoplanet being a planet orbiting any other star than the Sun. I'll call an exoplanet a planet anyway.)

Some planets escaped their stellar system and became "rogue planets" (I personally call them planets anyway): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_planet

I find "rogue planets" really interesting in the scope of this discussion. They orbit the galaxy they're in, unless they even escaped their galaxy. They can also orbit another "rogue planet". No energy brought by a star: other energy sources for a highly evolved planet?

Anyway, from space, when "we" see the Earth, we say that it's planet Earth, the whole sphere, with everything inside it, right? If there were highly evolved structures on its surface, we would say it's a highly evolved planet, right? At the same time, we could say it's a highly (technologically/evolutionarily/...) evolved civilisation(s) living on the planet.

Personally, in the scope of this discussion, I focus on:

1- the planet itself, the "mineral" spherical body;

2- the planet and the civilisation(s) it contains.

I don't consider the civilisation(s) alone because "planet" is one of the key-words in the message. I find very interesting to explore ideas regarding an uninhabited highly evolved planet (the most evolved one) and I thank you for doing so. Interesting: highly evolved technologically, evolutionarily.

Thank you again :)

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